改编的垃圾,这剧情真他妈恶心真他妈无语炸了,不知道为什么小说写的那么好为什么还要改编?
是觉得自己功底比原著好吗?
就特么改编如果能看就算了,把杰洛特设计的这么傻逼,杰洛特那么多兄弟,从小到大,让杰洛特看着死去的兄弟还特么想着救希里, 从原著到游戏,希里这条线一直都是重点中的重点,但是剧中的希里线,属实垃圾的看到就想吐,镜头一转切到希里就特么恶心。
老子的女儿被塑造的这么恶心,说着尊重原创,结果还特么改编。
剧透警告⚠️ 19年的时候接触巫师三游戏,当时只打了主线没打dlc ,也是刚接触3a,更多只是玩着新鲜,剧情没看明白多少,也没深究。
今天下午看完了第二季的电视剧,感觉是越来越好看的。
尤其是第二季刚开始ciri开始训练的时候,还有最后一集ciri面对女妖创造的ciri和亲生父母在一起的幻境,不能自拔的时候,Geralt说“we belong together,you,us。
it is not perfect,but it is real”。
我也幻想过自己出生在更好的家庭会不会比现在更优秀,也沉浸在虚拟游戏里无法自拔。
但是再完美的虚拟世界和幻想也不能取代自己亲身经历过的不完美的现实。
高大帅气的大超,满面正义背起了菜刀。
倘若是有点邪乎的拔叔呢,那我就不客气的给你一个字:“绝”!
👍 然而网菲大饭店完全不按菜谱来,气场强大惊艳高冷的叶奈法,不放黑莓伊娃,也不放赤霞珠塞隆,就这么端上了一碗咖喱🙄 原著史诗般的波澜壮阔,游戏的感官体验惊艳世界,还有那声声入魂的原创音乐大作,更是让全球沸腾……好家伙,看你整了个啥😑 缺钱来横店啊,这有大把银子在拍裤裆藏雷吃凉凉。
面对HBO,你这样就想打翻身仗了?
要不是念在原著和游戏跟我交情深厚,我是真追不下去了😤
椰奶和特莉丝换成她们俩来演怎么样?
椰奶和特莉丝换成她们俩来演怎么样?
椰奶和特莉丝换成她们俩来演怎么样?
椰奶和特莉丝换成她们俩来演怎么样?
椰奶和特莉丝换成她们俩来演怎么样?
椰奶和特莉丝换成她们俩来演怎么样?
椰奶和特莉丝换成她们俩来演怎么样?
椰奶和特莉丝换成她们俩来演怎么样?
椰奶和特莉丝换成她们俩来演怎么样?
在中文社区评分进步了,但在我看来较第一季退步明显,下面是我的理由:1. 动作戏不再用心,全季中没有一个值得我反复回味的动作戏(类似于第一季
(btw,我唯一看两遍的长镜头是丹德里恩的弹奏,对杰洛特的怨念都唱出来了)。
2. 除丹德里恩外,演员的词几乎都浮在天上,要么就是话里情感好像憋了10年,要么就是些充满哲理的句子,互相教育。
3. 维瑟米尔在原著中是一位慈祥、笃定、有趣、幽默的老头,他是杰洛特的父亲师傅和挚友,学识渊博、冷静从容。
本剧把他塑造为轻易上头,需要杰洛特去教育的糊涂蛋,我真是无语。
4. 小演员Freya的戏都浮在天上,对于我这样的原著和游戏党,逻辑上应该自动带入慈父身份,但实际上对她全然无感,无法带入。
我觉得可能因为她的成长,气质和混血精灵公主的角色偏离了(第一集中的年纪有这种气质)。
不由得感慨,这种长篇巨制,小演员的挑选是风险极大的,因为可能是跨越10年的剧集,小演员长成什么样,长多高,性格演技有什么变化都有不确定。
成功的话,就像Arya之于权游( Maisie 对Arya的塑造简直了,她的经历的苦难和成长是我最关注的剧情,当然Arya再神奇也拯救不了那既定的结局...)。
而这位小演员在第二季中的表现加深了我的忧虑。
如果不对剧情做大刀阔斧的修改,Ciri在之后的戏份将超过杰洛特,她是整个故事的中心,是上古血脉,是命运之子。
从仙尼德岛政变开始,她要经历的磨难甚至超过了权游中的Arya。
且这些故事都是在和杰洛特分离的时候发生的,是她成长和蜕变的关键历程。
离开了大超的陪伴,小演员Freya还撑得起这部戏吗?
5. 杰洛特几乎被塑造成了圣人,而不是那个穷困的,在和怪物的战斗中经常负伤险胜的,爱吐槽的,有着不合时宜的正义感的真实的猎魔人。
(第一季在这方面做的不错)。
说一说比较喜欢的地方:1. 反派李恩斯的形象更鲜活了,背景似乎也很合理。
叶妮芙在酒馆救丹德里恩的改编很有趣,凸显了她的智慧而不是单纯的武力。
把Ciri的法力丧失移花接木至叶身上也是很巧妙的改编。
2. 威哥塑造的很棒,藏的够深,一副正义凛然,拼尽全力的样子,不是原著党的话,估计被你唬住了。
照这么拍下去故事还没拍完就会被网飞砍掉,第一季简直就是个前传,在最后一集的最后一刻两个人才相遇,虽然说用了比较噱头的拍摄手法能拉回不少分数;在第二季里拖沓的情节仍然没有改变,我不禁在想目前猎魔人讲的这么宏观的故事要多少季才能拍完?
在后续不增加新故事的前提下最少要5季,故事的编剧感觉非常喜欢捉弄人,不到最后一刻不会告诉你是什么东西,这样就出现了很多的不合理性,剧集最后的最后的最后出现的恩希尔皇帝竟然是公主他爹,你逗我玩呢?
然后第三季再讲这个刺猬是怎么变成皇帝的辛酸史?
做人要有底线,给观众看的是可以欣赏的剧,而不是故意炫技把观众当傻子,整个剧集注水的内容太多,看到第二季的时候我已经学会了快进了,不禁在想就这么拍下去风评会不会越来越差最后导致被网飞砍掉?
公主和猎魔人跑了8集才碰到一起,这8集先介绍了一下世界观,第二季主要讲了公主会了自己的能力了,驼背的魔法变得稳定而强悍了,猎魔人死完了,就这些???
整个剧集的设定是魔法来源于精灵,但精灵在里面最弱,而且不止实力弱,脑子也弱,有了个娃竟然结盟就原地解散,专心养娃?????
这TM两者冲突吗?????
非要娃死了才有斗志猎魔人被团灭割喉的时候我差点没喷出老血来,大白天的都在睡大觉????
晚上干嘛去啊,蹦迪上网吗?
睡觉就算了还没一点防备心,一看就不是猪脚,猪脚总能在被割喉前一刻醒来,这几个可怜的猎魔人被简单干脆的割喉死,很明显编剧想强行制造猎魔人最后只有猪脚没有后人的感觉,但又给了一个公主的血可以造血魔人的设定,那就奇了怪了,这猎魔人到底绝不绝迹?
可能编剧也还没想清楚。
这个CIRI公主有多婊我也懒得说了,果然傻白甜都这鸟样,这2季看下来,这公主的设定就和权游的龙母差不多,从一个傻白甜到一堆人闭着眼睛宣誓效忠到最后变成一个集权人物BLABLABLA,最后别人问CIRI是谁的时候,我怕她脱口而出【 坦格利安家族的风暴降生丹尼莉丝坦格利安一世、不焚者、弥林女王、安达尔人和先民的女王、七国统治者暨全境守护者、草原上的卡丽熙、打碎镣铐者以及龙之母!
】...剧集的不合理还有很多很多,太多了。
如果说编剧精于做细节的话那你们就错了,很多细节都放了引线没有展开来,比如说龙,那个金龙吹的神乎其神,但也就露了个脸说了个预言,后面我以为会在各种危急时刻为了关照男主而凌空出现,但没有,再也没见到,或许编剧会在第15季的时候把这个老金龙的故事线拉起来,不过谁在乎呢,你以为你埋了一堆线什么时候想用就可以拉出来,在我看来这只是愚蠢的挖坑而已。
通篇评价是质量尚可,但因为注水的原因质量有了明显的下降,如果节奏再快一些故事情节再精简一些我相信会好很多。
编剧做个人吧,如果你们原本打算拍10季,那么我建议你们最好在4季内解决问题,狗屁宏达的世界观先放一放,诸如魁拔之类的做春秋大梦最后无疾而终的剧我看了太多了,不能说可惜,只能说丢人。
最后,给这个游吟诗人打满分。
丹大师:《午夜巴黎》,成龙的《上海正午》的 Owen Wilson。
有人会觉得他岁数会不会有些大,但请往下看杰洛特的人选,就知道为啥丹大师是这个选角了。
维瑟米尔:老戏骨,《低俗小说》,《无耻混蛋》,Harvey Keitel
杰日天:丹麦国宝!
美剧《汉尼拔》Mads Mikkelson看了下面这张图,谁能说不是他呢!
特莉丝:《侏罗纪世界》的红发大美女 Bryce Dallas Howard
大家的女王耶奶:当之无愧是Eva Green啊!
希里:真心觉得Lady Bird,《小妇人》的Saorise Ronan 能像小伙子,也能很美颜,年龄也对,再合适不过了。
Fuck it. I decided to compile a list of every change between Season 2 and Blood of ElvesHeavy spoilers for the books and Season 2!\---This is not all-encompassing. I'll forget some changes--Heaven knows the writers made enough changes. I'll also preface this by saying: This isn't a commentary on the quality of the season itself. It is simply a collection of the differences between the novel and the show.**Characters*** Voleth Meir is not in the books. Completely new character.* Geralt wouldn't use Ciri as bait in the books. Nor did he.* Ciri is never possessed by a witch.* Yennefer does not lose her magic in the books. * Yennefer never considers sacrificing Ciri for power. Nor does the opportunity ever arise.* Yennefer is not captured by Niilfgard in the books. * Instead, she is blinded following Sodden after taking a fireball to the face from Fringilla. She then spends lots of time in recovery, then--on Dijkstra's orders--tails and saves Dandelion from Rience. * No one ever thinks she's dead in the books either (Geralt worries that she died after Sodden, if I recall, but finds out rather quickly she's still out there after talking to Triss at the Sodden memorial)* Later in the series (Post Time of Contempt/Late Season 3 or early Season 4 by comparison), people suspect Yennefer of being a Nilfgaardian spy. But at no point does anyone suspect her of being a spy following Sodden.* The Stregobor stuff isn't a thing in the books. He's there, but plays no important role.* Vessemir wouldn't try to use Ciri's blood to create more witchers in the books. Nor would he ever allow Ciri to undergo the Trial. Nor would he let Eskel bring a bunch of hookers to Kaer Morhen* In the books, Dandelion is actively working with Djikstra and the Redanian Secret Service. This is removed in the show It is implied that Djikstra is funding Dandelion's sandpiper activities, though Dandelion doesn't seem to be aware of who he is working with. This is speculative on my part though. * Also in the books, Dandelion is not nearly as comedic as he was in Season 2. He is funny, but they seemed to lean into that aspect of him for Season 2. * This is more my interpretation, but in the books, Dandelion is far wittier than he is in the show. He certainly doesn't come across as the type to talk to rats in the book.* Djikstra is not a rambling drunk in the books (although I didn't find that to be a bad change. It was pretty interesting IMO).* I don't believe Istredd even appears in Blood of Elves* Francesa Findabar is *not* with the Scoia'tael in the books. By this, I mean she's not in the field with them, acting as their leader. * She is a member of the Brotherhood of Sorcerers, though she does harbor sympathies for their cause and occasionally meets with Scoia'tel leaders (Filavandrel, as an example). This relationship becomes relevant when she aids Niilfgaard during the Coup at Thanned* Fringilla Vigo does not become de facto leader of Cintra in the books. Instead, she fucks off to Niilfgard* Cahir is not captured by the Brotherhood following Sodden in the books. I don't even recall if he was at Sodden. As far as I recall, he traveled back to Niilfgard following the Fall of Cintra, and was imprisoned for failing to capture Ciri. We don't see him again for another two books after Sodden. * His execution plot-point never happened in the books. * Book Cahir is also not nearly as mustache-twirly-evil-villain as he is in the show. Cahir fans will know what I mean.* Tissaia is hardly a significant character in the books.* Rience is not a magical bounty hunter in the books. He's an almost fanatical follower of Vilgefortz in the books. * Rience is scarred in the show and books, but in the books, it's because Yennefer uses her magic to wound him as he's interrogating Dandelion.* Lydia Van Bredevoort does not develop her scars from sniffing a vial of elder blood in the books. Instead, her scars are a result of magical experimentation on Vilgefortz' orders, and her wounds are hidden with an illusion.* Eskel is not turned into a Leshen and then killed (as far as we know. He's not in the books for long.)* Vilgefortz and Tissaia are not a romantic thing, as far as I could tell. Nor are they really even partners. Vilgefortz is also the genuine champion of Sodden in the books. He does this to gain more authority in the Brotherhood. * Vilgy is also way stronger and smarter in the books then how he is depicted in the show. Also, Vilgy never says his classic line. This is a cardinal sin, imo.* Nenekke is an old and religious lady. She doesn't go around dropping f-bombs in the books.* Emhyr kept the fact that Ciri was his daughter a big secret in the books. Understandable, given his plans for her (**cough** Imperial Incest **cough**)* Jarre in the books is a bit of a geek, who is very clearly awkward around girls, and has a crush on Ciri. But he's also smart, and good-intentioned. The show reduces him to a dick joke.**Plot Points*** Except for Ciri's training, there is not a single fight at Kaer Morhen. Never. There is no Leshen, nor is there the centipede thing with the claws. There is no possession. * There are only four witchers at Kaer Morhen (Vessemir, Eskel, Lambert, and Coen) * At Kaer Morhen, Ciri trains and exercises. Eventually, Triss arrives (on Geralt's request) and instructs Ciri on the basics of magic, as well as the Elder language.* The plot point with Ciri's blood being able to make more witchers is not in the books. * Vesemir never collects her blood either. The thought of making more witchers is only ever entertained in the context of Ciri being raised as a girl vs. being raised as a witcher. But the mutagenic process itself/Trial of Grasses is never brought up.* In the book, Triss travels with Ciri and Geralt to the Temple. In the show, she doesn't. We don't see her get sick. * On the path to the Temple is when they run into Yarpen Zigrin again. This doesn't happen in the show. As a result, Ciri doesn't visit Shaerrawedd, and there is no fight with the Scoia'tael.* There is no fight at Melitele's Temple in the books. Never.* Yennefer does not travel to the Temple to kidnap Ciri and sacrifice her in the books. * In the books, Ciri and Yennefer stay at the temple for a while. Ciri learns more magic. * Yennefer is invited to the temple by Geralt after Geralt has already left. See the 'Dear Friend,' bullet point further down. * There is no reunion between Geralt and Yennefer in Blood of Elves. They reunite outside Gors Velen in the next book.* In the books, Rience does not find Ciri at the Temple. Instead, Geralt leaves Ciri in Nenekke's care to find Rience at Oxenfurt. * There is no Shani in the show. >:( * Phillipa does not help Geralt find Rience, nor does she help Rience escape: as she does in the books. * In fact, Rience doesn't meet Ciri till the Time of Contempt, which is the next book following Blood of Elves.* Dandelion doesn't sing at a tavern in Oxenfurt. He sings at Bleobheris, a sacred tree. * His Sandpiper plot is not a thing in the books. * Dandelion is not arrested in the books.* The elf and Cintra plot is not in the books. * There is a non-human uprising in the North in the books, led by the Scoia'tael, but they are not given Cintra as a place of refuge by the Niilfgardians. Instead, Niilfgard is suspected of funding and arming them behind the scenes to stoke instability in the North.* Francesca never gets pregnant. Nor does Emhyr commit infanticide against an elven baby in the books. * The notion that a pure-blooded elf hasn't been born in decades is also a Netflix invention. Elves have a much smaller window of time to get pregnant, but it still happens in the books. Avallach and Geralt talk about this in Tower of Swallow.* The magical politics is a thing in the books, but is very different from the magical politics in the show. Stregobor does not interrogate or harm Yennefer, and neither do Tissaia/Vilgy use that as an excuse to seize Council seats. * Instead, the magical politics in the book are concerned with the growing distrust between the Kings and their magical advisors * The meeting of the Kings at the end of Season 2 is the meeting of the Kings in BoE that puts the Mages on edge, and is used to justify the Conclave in Time of Contempt. However, Tissaia is at the King's meeting in the show, which is not the case in the book. No mages were invited to the meeting in the books.* When the Kings of the North meet, they do conclude it best to kill Ciri--so as to prevent her falling into Emhyr's hands (they don't want him to have a legitimate claim to the Cintran throne). However, the show cut the King's talk of war with Niilfgaard. * In the books, they believe a quick strike across the Yaruga could recapture Cintra, and deal a blow to the South. This conversation paves the way for the Second Great War, but does not happen in the show. * The show also leaves out the politics regarding Cintra's throne. Cordhingrer is visited by Geralt in the books, and they develop a plot to--essentially-- smear Calanthe's name and ruin her claim to the Cintrant throne, thus making Ciri's claim to the throne illegitimate. Thus, protecting her from the kings who want her dead for her political power.* Again, the Voleth Meir plot is not in the books at all. Instead, Blood of Elves focuses on Ciri's training and planting the seeds for future conflicts. * I.e. the Second Great War, the Coup of Thanned, Character's motivations to capture Ciri, etc.* The Monoliths are not a thing in the books.* The 'Dear Friend,' bit is in reference to letters exchanged by Yennefer and Geralt while Geralt is in Oxenfurt hunting for Rience. Geralt asks Yennefer to travel to the temple to train Ciri. Again, Geralt and Yen don't actually meet though.* In the books, Niilfgardians are depicted as something more akin to the Romans or English (Highly centralized government with progressive and aristocratic traditions and legal codes). In the books, they are not religious zealots. Though they are also not necessarily 'good' either.* Yennefer and Cahir never have a team-up in the books.* Tissaia does not recommend that Ciri be captured, nor does she suggest that anyone protecting her be captured as well. In fact, Tissaia's role in the show is dramatically overblown.* Ciri is not with Geralt when he meets Nivellen.* Istredd does not meet with Cordringer and Fenn in the books. Geralt does meet them to find information about Rience and Ciri.It's not an exaggeration to say that the *majority* of this season is different from the books. And not just sort of different, but drastically different. Hell, the last four or five episodes are fictitious (relative to the book canon (yes I know it's all fiction, please stop reminding me)) in nearly every way. At this point, I'm not certain where the story will go. For example, how will the Coup play out on Thanedd if Ciri won't be able to attend it? And if Ciri isn't at Aretuza for the Coup, then how will she be warped to the desert? And if she isn't separated from Geralt and Yennefer, then how will she meet up with the Rats?Obviously, they can still work these plots in, or at least, work in the *effects* of these plots, but the story will take a drastically different turn than the one the book tells.Note that this isn't necessarily a good or a bad thing, so long as it's done well. But there has to come a point when the adaptation is so drastically different from the source material, that I start to wonder whether it's truly an adaptation, or if it's a reimagining.
前面都还行,最后看的我很痛苦,倒不是因为猎魔人被噶了一大半,而是因为希里这么重要的角色一点成长都没有,希里跟着猎魔人那么幸苦的训练,她跟杰洛特说她想对过去冷漠的时候我真以为她成长了,但是最后的表现还是那个被困在过去的软弱要抱抱的公主,外面猎魔人死的死伤的伤最后一起过来呼唤希里,前面杰洛特千呼百唤没啥用就算了,都到这份上了结果她转头对她从来没见过的爹妈来一句我哪也不去我只要你们简直是把一路上跟杰洛特和其他猎魔人陪伴的感情揉一块扔到地上踩两脚还要吐口唾沫,算是编剧强行要用这个机会来让叶奈法表现出转变来救场,叶奈法的转变是表现出来了,那希里的呢?
顺带一提编剧很用心的把希里快乐跳舞和猎魔人被虐杀的画面交替在一块,跟最后一集要表现的“家人”的主题实在是撕裂。
还有维瑟米尔,一个猎魔人死掉他都心疼死了,现在在他面前惨死那么多个我都不知道他要怎么撑过去,然而他还是作为编剧的工具人,内心的情感与挣扎、希望与绝望被简单带过了。
至于亚斯卡尔,他这个吊儿郎当一点忙都帮不上的形象可能已经被编剧用502胶水粘在他身上再拍一百季也甩不掉了。
我真心希望有人能来告诉我我的理解是错的,片面的,不然看了这个剧我得好久心情都不会好了。
看到S2E2终于觉得不对,忍不住了。
我可真是后知后觉。
先来说说第一部的优点,有几处精彩的打戏,有几处精彩的改编,虽然肉眼可见的低成本,但尽最大诚意还原了该有的大场景;虽然因为剧情容量所限,削减了部分角色剧情,但好在叙事手法应用得当颇具新意。
那么好了,第二部给了我们什么?
在北方诸国出现了完全两样的气候,一边下暴风,一边树木长青。
你当这是西伯利亚和地中海诸国吗?
——行,为了塑造不同的情绪,勉强能接受。
理论上最少最少要花半个月时间(即使不讨论背景设定,现实里跨越气候带的路程会很短吗),杰洛特和希里还是单衣最多加个裘。
——行,影棚拍戏穿太厚,太热了出汗就出戏了,勉强接受。
一队精灵贵族难民(甚至不是松鼠党,这有本质区别,不论是战斗风格还是嗜血程度二者都完全不同),用莫名其妙的大粗木头尖子捅死一队尼弗迦德指挥官小队并俘虏了两个女术士(甚至还要在后面幻境里圆一下,叶奈法失去了力量)——行,节省成本降低非主线的打斗预算,勉强接受。
甚至你整个叶奈法线都是拙劣的谜语人戏码也无所谓。
悬疑嘛,稍微调节调节气氛。
第一集的主线肤浅,别扭,我听说猎魔人的编剧既看不起游戏也看不起原著,那么怎么能写出这种劣质惊悚片套爱情片的剧本。
刻意创造疑点,又刻意让主人公不在乎。
明明前面的剧情已经在凶案现场却刻意忽略线索,都到了怪物居所猎魔人的嗅觉、听觉甚至视觉统统失效,还非得回现场一趟,作一番拙劣的推理(能飞的怪物可多了,而且没有白天出没和仔细观察尸体伤口的细节根本推理不出什么东西)。
——行,我可以催眠自己杰洛特是顾及希里安全没有下马探查,大雪天影响了猎魔人感官。
这是动作片不是侦探片,可以可以勉强接受。
还有剧情改编,是原著不行吗。
不是,是编剧驾驭不了原著的深度不敢讨论人性的阴暗面,是剧方为了收视率刻意选择了俗套。
这是猎魔人?
这不是合家欢迪士尼乐园?
——当然,至少还算像人写出来的东西,也不是不能看。
把原作中直到收到委托才去击杀吸血女妖的杰洛特,改编成站在人类一方,即使明知纳维伦的意愿仍然挥剑的“正义”骑士,也不是不行。
大众就好这口,勉强接受。
但是第二集是什么玩意儿?
演员新冠🐏了换演员我可以理解,但是从妆容、性格、演员模样,这完完全全就是兰伯特。
艾斯卡尔会带妓女上山?
我一开始还以为我认错人了。
且不论这个林地矮妖和斯拉夫传说里的没半毛钱关系,其本身也不存在什么寄生转化这种和设定自相矛盾的能力,为什么会让艾斯卡尔被寄生,让他被杀死?
编剧是这样表示的:通过亲近之人的死,让杰洛特迅速理解到保护希里的重要性。
我说编剧是不是有病,我可太知道编剧是什么想法了:艾斯卡尔的演员换人了,暂时找不到合适的演员,那干脆就然这个角色下线;但是后面可能还需要一个类似艾斯卡尔的角色,怎么办呢,就让表现令人厌烦的、不好脸谱化的、主流观众不一定喜欢的兰伯特,去死吧你,然后让兰伯特这个角色取代艾斯卡尔的位置,让他变成温柔玩世不恭的游侠形象吧,这一波偷梁换柱我简直是天才。
………………傻逼。
………………对不起我一般不在网上骂人但是我忍不住了。
游戏里,艾斯卡尔也有一个意外率获得的命运之女——戴德莉·阿德梅恩。
你改编成艾斯卡尔被戴德莉杀了或者他杀了命运之女,又或者他回到凯尔莫罕听其他猎魔人说戴德莉政变失败失踪了,然后不顾风雪去寻找她,不是能达到差不多的效果?
你们这还搁那演动作戏,演演演,演砍艾斯卡尔(兰伯特)的戏码,叶奈法都被人PUA了还搁这动作戏。
原本演员可以来的时候准备怎么拍?
那个时候就准备吧艾斯卡尔搞死了?
还是说原本准备搞死兰伯特,因为这个演员原本是演兰伯特的?
因为他原本就该死所以没签长约,找来的兰伯特的演员才贴近艾斯卡尔的形象因为他就是来演艾斯卡尔的剧本的?
还有妓女来的时候维瑟米尔不出来阻止,杰洛特来阻止??
希里到凯尔莫罕没人惊讶就算了,你还要等兰伯特——我不管那就是兰伯特——进门问了才来个亮明身份。
太弱智了,这都不是弱智剧情,这纯粹是犯低级错误,从剪辑逻辑上就是完完全全不合理的。
导演编剧至少有一个要背锅。
“兰伯特演员是临时找的,这一段是补拍”这种理由我才不接受。
有些观众似乎很喜欢这一季啊,拿IMDB分数和烂番茄新鲜度还有豆瓣作证。
但是不论是烂番茄爆米花指数60分不到,MC用户分不到4分,还是最重要的一点,所有平台的评论数量都锐减至少一半,都说明了第二季烂烂烂烂上加烂。
还有一些为政治正确辩驳的用户
第一位在为政治正确辩驳
第二位脑子不好使,搞不清第一位说的什么,更搞不清种族歧视第一季拍的还行,某些角色被边缘化了,换外貌不那么出众的和黑人演员没关系,印裔的叶奈法在第一季演技还不错所以都可以容忍,但这可不是什么值得称道的事。
什么才是真正的反对种族歧视?
是实打实的展现北境王国对精灵和矮人的种族仇杀是不将歧视和非我族类弱化成王国纷争的人类与精灵王国的矛盾是将血淋淋的现实不加粉饰的展现在人们面前而不是用就业公平这种由头硬塞黑人演员的做法白人和部分傻傻的黑人才吃这一套,这样一来不但减缓了黑人的反抗意识,也把白人内部(甚至其他少数族裔)的就业矛盾转移到黑人身上剧组敢改编一个史凯力根乘船去南方掠夺黑人奴隶或者尼弗迦德征召黑人奴隶上前线的戏码吗?
敢在剧中放人类对亚人种族惨无人道的火刑架和松鼠党报复性的割喉谋杀吗?
甚至,剧组敢在剧里加上一段嘲讽亚人种族的童谣吗?
原作表达的类似于“人类之间不论有什么矛盾,其他种族怪物都不过是人类的工具,也许可能是人类的伙伴,但永远不会是人类,不论是精灵、矮人、猎魔人还是怪物。
”电视剧里有出现一点点吗?
为什么我上面提到“即使明知纳维伦的意愿仍然挥剑的‘正义’骑士”,因为真正的猎魔人基本不会为了委托之外原因去猎杀魔物,除非跟猎魔人自己切身相关,又或者挡住他的路。
猎魔人的世界里又各种不同的伦理,猎魔人的伦理,女术士的伦理,精灵的伦理,德鲁伊的伦理,吸血鬼的伦理,人类的伦理,人类的伦理里面还有史凯力根这种和大陆不同的伦理。
电视剧有真正去塑造这些不同的伦理吗?
还不是一笔带过或者脸谱化处理。
这叫什么,这叫美国主义。
我在这放两部剧,真正做到了对政治正确的正面探讨《杰克莱恩(第一季)》《副本(第一季)》对,都只有一季,为什么只有一季值得称道那就去问美国人。
为什么酷儿不再是酷的,为什么平权流于表面不再敢于深入,为什么好的创作者和创作方向不再能获得资源,都去问美国人。
不是只有天朝的文娱在走下坡路。
沃卓斯基拍不了8被迫去拍黑4,都是一个道理。
就那么一点点价值观的冲突,还依赖着原著,为什么不能用珠玉在前的原著和游戏来对比电视剧?
甚至脱开前者,电视剧的水平也就将将二流,比CW超英剧强点的水平。
烂番茄新鲜度90%就吹吧,真是一等一水平亨利会直接辞演而不是错开档期?
平心而论,第一季我会给4星,第二季我会给23星,但是就像冯小刚说的——虽然他不一定对—— “有很多垃圾观众,才形成了这么多的垃圾电影。
你如果不去捧场,它就没有生存空间,制片人也不会去制作这些垃圾电影。
” Netflix里我vote down,豆瓣我也要打一星,这才是真正尊重影视作品。
[cp]猎魔人好难看,第二季看到第二集我实在忍不下了。关了Netflix。。。哪怕亨利卡维尔再美,我也看不下去了。。。。 [/cp]
纯当西游记一样看还不错
最后一集拉垮
我想站Gerald和Ciri的CP!
第二季眼见着是预算提高了,怪物比第一部做的好的很多,而且线性叙事也让故事顺畅易看了很多,但是……虽然我只玩儿了巫师3而且没看过小说,但是这个角色塑造和角色关系,是不是有tm什么问题?叶奈法需要猪油蒙了心么?维瑟米尔是这种稀里糊涂的老头么?美国人写角色弧光是不是只会一种写法?
这大升格用的真的nb...
除了亨利卡和bard的角色,可以用一无是处来形容。。
我好奇自己为什么还在看这个,弃
说实话这剧情太离谱了,硬伤也太多了,为什么最后决战的时候就站在那里硬聊天啊?为什么希里中了无限月读割个脉就好了啊?那瓶药竟然没有作用你配它干嘛呢?那个石头也是,只是为了带过去让白狼看一眼吗?为什么叶奈法突然就对希里好了啊?为什么希里上一个镜头还是落魄公主下一秒就变成了一心想着塔塔开的复仇者了啊?为什么韦瑟米尔手下的猎魔人都被希里杀了他一点反应都没有啊?为什么他们不让希里跟他爸团聚啊?为什么精灵女王那么牛逼孩子会这么轻易被杀啊,时间线倒是比第一季连贯了但是这个剧情怎么比第一季更离谱了啊,人物之间的动机完全都立不住,白狼跟叶奈法之间的感情线基本为零,看完感觉他们俩在一起完全只是因为所谓的命中注定,白狼对希里的感情也完全只是因为一个promise跟保镖似的,好好的故事能拍成这样编剧也是真的逆天。
知道了设定与大背景之后非常好看。有着硬核的怪物和人心争斗方才与“魔幻”的定义接近,这似乎是《冰与火之歌》和《猎魔人》这种因地制宜,用足了本土文化概念和天马行空想象的作品才能蕴藏的气质,因此《龙族》和郭敬明的《爵迹》都是硬套了外国的名字,敲打着十五六岁青少年懵懂的心灵。《非人哉》《罗小黑战记》更加有趣与自然真是再正常不过了
平平淡淡吧,除了特效比上一季好点之外没啥建树
第一集好看,后边改编得乱七八糟。给了四星完全是因为被哼的美貌蒙蔽了双眼
Budget well spent. Except y'all took this huge-ass dump on the original work and call it adaptation. Everyone wishes they could dig up the next GoT these days, bunch of smug Hollywood twats.
最大的败笔莫过于选角,除了杰洛特扮演者,其他角色基本丑的一p,演技也差!其次就是剧本了,本末倒置,在对杰洛特形象刻画与故事叙述不够充分的情况下,就急于引入其他角色的成长(感觉受到权游叙事方式的影响),导致原本原著诸多可搬上银幕的精彩故事没有机会得到展现。希瑞扮演者一点灵性都没有!!还有叶奈法,讲真,不是肤色偏见,但非白人角色演不出这部植根于西欧神话传说的故事魅力。
没看过小说没玩过游戏,憋完8集,得出结论:创作团队根本不想让我看懂
想创死编剧
Ciri 女大十八變啊,臉盲一堆角色回憶失敗,沒看過原著,遊戲也買來擺在男人的鞋架上,很多地方看不懂,不過沒關係,冰與火之歌初期也是這樣,繼續期待 S3
虽然第一季的情节,我已经快忘的差不多了,然鹅看第二季的时候,觉得好看程度仍没法和第一季比……这季无论节奏和情节,都设定的有一点点无聊……
整体比上一季有质感,就是编剧能不能不瞎勾巴乱改,艾斯卡尔g了就算了,科恩变黑我也能接受,nm推了半天剧情还在凯尔莫汉是什么意思?加了一堆莫名其妙的原创故事,拖节奏还没意义,照着原著拍能死是吧。本来还期待下雨燕之塔和布伦纳之战,好家伙就这点叙事功力能拍好火之洗礼真的谢天谢地了
说实话很垃圾